http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm conceptual, strategic and development work in urban design, town making, city planning, urbanism and place-making Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:35:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm/comment-page-1#comment-87 David Barrie Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:34:45 +0000 http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm#comment-87 sorry, i never picked up your reply. your right. but our obsession with cleanliness and tidiness now seems to pervade. just look at the food we eat and what's acceptable or not. although everyone laughed at the arrival of minimalist art a long time ago - remember those bricks at the Tate? - for some reason minimalism seems to pervade everything just now. and it doesn't tend to come cheap! sorry, i never picked up your reply. your right. but our obsession with cleanliness and tidiness now seems to pervade. just look at the food we eat and what’s acceptable or not. although everyone laughed at the arrival of minimalist art a long time ago – remember those bricks at the Tate? – for some reason minimalism seems to pervade everything just now. and it doesn’t tend to come cheap!

]]> http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm/comment-page-1#comment-78 Willie Miller Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:03:45 +0000 http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm#comment-78 Yes it is a minority sport - just like haikyo. I think drosscape has more negative (and American) connotations than terrain vague and it probably couldn't be the title of a Jean Luc Ponty album. For me the issue is that many people involved in changing towns, cities and countryside in the UK don't seem to be able to accept that environments of different ages, characters and habitats can co-exist - everything has to be simplified and cleaned up to make way for new development. You won't find volume housebuilders so interested in haikyo, drosscape or terrain vague - or even spontaneous environments. The Duisburg developments show an alternative approach. Yes it is a minority sport – just like haikyo. I think drosscape has more negative (and American) connotations than terrain vague and it probably couldn’t be the title of a Jean Luc Ponty album. For me the issue is that many people involved in changing towns, cities and countryside in the UK don’t seem to be able to accept that environments of different ages, characters and habitats can co-exist – everything has to be simplified and cleaned up to make way for new development. You won’t find volume housebuilders so interested in haikyo, drosscape or terrain vague – or even spontaneous environments. The Duisburg developments show an alternative approach.

]]> http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm/comment-page-1#comment-77 David Barrie Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:45:14 +0000 http://www.williemiller.co.uk/terrain-vague-place-and-landscape.htm#comment-77 This 'terrain vague' is a real minority sport. I love it! But Drosscape still seems a better, more robust description than a phrase that's slightly cheesey St Germain or the title of a remaindered album. If in the U.K. we did not protect our countryside, what would these unused middle kingdoms on the periphery of towns and cities be like? This ‘terrain vague’ is a real minority sport. I love it! But Drosscape still seems a better, more robust description than a phrase that’s slightly cheesey St Germain or the title of a remaindered album. If in the U.K. we did not protect our countryside, what would these unused middle kingdoms on the periphery of towns and cities be like?

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